Milo: Forbidden Conversation

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I should start by saying that Milo is definitely now on the list of those who no one acceptable socially should ever speak to, which I suppose is one of the reasons why I’m talking to him. I want to know what happened to him over the last few years, in his words, and I don’t really give a damn if that’s politically incorrect. I also plan to post clips directly from this discussion on Facebook this week. We'll all see (all who are interested) what happens when that occurs.

Milo's a hard man to categorize. Part journalist, part performance artist, part agent provocateur, part comedian and wit, Yiannopoulos is a man of immense and complex self contradiction. He’s half-Greek and half-Irish, but is know as an Englishman to the Americans with whom he has communicated extensively. He’s gay, and Jewish by descent. He married to his long-term boyfriend, an African-American man, in Hawaii, in 2017, but faces frequent accusations of racism. He is—or was—strangely attractive to young American Republicans, and completed a successful and controversy-ridden tour of US universities in 2016-2017. For at least two years, he was one of the most well-known internet celebrities, let’s say, on the political front, and caused more uproar than any other single person that I can think of.

In my view, for what it’s worth, Milo was such a figure of inner contradiction and outer controversy that I believed his time was numbered. Nonetheless, the circumstances of his demise were unpredictable, I would say (and that’s in keeping with his apparent destiny). After revealing details of his early sexual experiences at the hands of a decades older priest, whom he refused to name, he stated that he was an active participant in the events, and that such occurrences were far more common (and far more consensual) than people were willing to admit. I don’t think he ever recovered from the controversy that those comments generated.

In case it has to be said, and no doubt it does, I believe that what happened to him was absolutely unforgivable, and it would seem that he has come to share that opinion. Our conversation centered mostly around these issues, which I believe to be of wide general relevance. Hence the video.

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zac fischer

I love how Jordan is so deadpan when he does his introduction. If he did a podcast with a man pointing a gun at his head it would sound something like:

“This man in front of me appears to be upset. From what I can gather, he is capable of doing harm to me and has access to certain firearms... so that’s interesting...” 😂

4 months ago | [YT] | 6,129

Gearoid Walsh

I like Milo a lot more after hearing this.

His self-awareness both of his personal life and his place on the social and cultural landscape is endearing.

4 months ago | [YT] | 231

Trumps12InchSofty

I miss Milo so much. It was so exciting when he was running amok in America.

4 months ago | [YT] | 546

Michael M

"I am not egotistical' -Milo


One hour later ...


"I am egotistical" -Milo

1 week ago | [YT] | 10

Billy Birch

“Talking much about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself.” - Friedrich Nietzsche

3 months ago | [YT] | 141

E K

I think split screen would be better. It is important to be able to see the reactions of the listener, as well.

4 months ago | [YT] | 1,184

Tom Hines

My heart for Milo during the dredging up of his past but I respect the way Jordan Peterson asked the questions and the patience and grace that Milo exhibited in answering them. Have Milo on again Dr. Peterson!

4 months ago | [YT] | 173

Micah

It really seemed to me, especially during the second half, that Milo has some underlying aggression and hurt towards Jordan, Ben, Ruben, et al. He doesn't sound fine at all, as he describes himself. He sounds slightly bitter. Jordan handled it perfectly, though and never responded in kind. Great and extremely insightful interview overall. Respect to both men.

2 months ago | [YT] | 50

Soap Box

What a privilege to be allowed to witness such a deeply personal and thoughtful conversation. Thank you, Milo and Dr Peterson for sharing your thoughts

4 months ago | [YT] | 336

Peter7966

Milo: No shortage of ego and confidence. A unique voice. Smart and very articulate. Jordon does a good job of digging in as an interviewer and psychotherapist.

4 months ago | [YT] | 126

thejonathan130

Avengers End Game: we have the best crossover
JBP: Observe my Lobster.

4 months ago (edited) | [YT] | 1,445

Russ Randolph

I watched this wanting to like Milo... but his "im more enlightened than anyone" vibe is to much.

3 months ago | [YT] | 26

Tânia Manzur

This is a very powerful interview/interaction! Two intelligent men openly talking about so many potent issues. Thank you!

4 months ago | [YT] | 108

Kiinell

I can't deal with this level of narcissism. Hard as I tried.

2 months ago | [YT] | 12

ARyan

Peterson, you are the best of Canada, I love how you remain polite through it all.

4 months ago | [YT] | 103

Ron Hernandez

Milo's private talk with a therapist gone public.

4 months ago | [YT] | 1,457

Eric Ramseur

I love how Jordan doesn't take Milo's digs personally and keeps it rolling.

Edit: He's getting more cringey.

3 months ago (edited) | [YT] | 17

esotericVideos

Sorry but I don't for a second buy Milo's "I don't have a big ego" claim, particularly coming in the middle of him listing off all these reasons he's so great.
Love Jordan though obviously

4 months ago | [YT] | 97

OneEyedKeys

The conversation started well, but Milo's dark indignation reveals itself at about the half way point, where he predicts the demise of Peterson's career as a certainty, and all other conservative commontators. I don't think he is truthful when he states how happy and joyful he is.

2 months ago | [YT] | 60

Maureen Getchell

Watching Milo recognize the benefit of children to our psyches is really amazing. When he says, (paraphrasing) “remembering as my 14 yo self is very different from seeing my stepson... now I get the outrage.” That’s a major realization and it’s something that only a person seeing their life reflected in a child can see.

4 months ago | [YT] | 78


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